Clay Travis vs Stephen A Smith: Debate shows respectful discourse, like Charlie Kirk would have encouraged

2025-09-17 12:20:11

Outkick founder Clay Travis Espn star Stephen a. Smith Today in the sports front office, which was seized at the summit, was overcome on Wednesday with a respectable vital discussion that covered a wide range of topics, including policy in sports, NBA, and Trump administration plans to send the National Guard to American cities and even their political aspirations.

The discussion lasted for a little less than an hour and began with a confession from the supervisor Baker Mathadu from the sports office sports about the assassination of activist and media figure Charlie Kerk, the respected public discourse champion.

This was exactly what was offered During the entire discussion Among two players, although they do not agree on everything, they clearly share mutual respect.

These are good things, and we need more of them.

So, let’s take a look at some of the most larger moments of the event.

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It is clear that the concentration of this debate is politics and sports, then the middle of the Finn. Therefore, it was appropriate to start with a question about whether sport was more political or whether the media and people like Clay and Samith made it this way.

“I think we are making it somewhat so,” Smith said. “This does not mean that there is no involved policy. There is a policy involved. There is a policy that participates in everything, and we understand it.”

He went on to discuss how athletes in previous generations felt that they had to speak because of pressure from their local communities, an idea that touched it again later in the discussion, even saying that, on the similar one, it was the pressure of society that forced him to obtain more policy after the death of Tripoli Martin.

After talking about the importance of civil talks like this, Travis talked about how sport is “unique”.

“I am an old school in some respects. I think Michael Jordan was right. I think this depends on what your brand is, but I think sport is unique,” he said. “I have just seen, unfortunately, Tennessee University volunteers suffocate to Baldogs Georgia. Wonderful game this week, but every time I am in the square, every time I am on the field, when you don’t think about the root of the team at home, or you are sitting around them.

After some discussion about the US Professional League’s conversion to politics and how this affected its popularity, the conversation turned into an increase in black men who voted for President Donald Trump, with 21 % vote in his favor during the 2024 presidential elections.

“I think this is because men see the Democratic Party floundering,” Travis said. “And if you want the view of my big picture, I think many of the struggles we see in life are absent and men are not allowed to be men. I have three children I wear. I hear from them all the time,” poisonous masculinity. “We are not talking about toxic femininity.

Smith admitted that he did not think this was a mistake, but he jokingly was “far from the right.” Another explanation.

“Black men are like most men; the ability to bear costs, economy. Do you understand?” Smith said. “I mean, yes,” How many money will you put in my pocket? How much will I pay in taxes? How can I bear the costs of saving and protecting my family? “She wants safety in the streets.”

When talking about street safety, the discussion also spoke about the president’s use of the National Guard to reduce crime in Washington, DC, and his plan to do the same in Memphis, Tennessee.

Travis praised the efforts made to clean the capital of the nation.

“Politicians often demonstrate with black violence and internal violence,” he said. “Trump is actually trying to address it.”

As for Samith, he asked about the constitutionality of the National Guard sending outside Washington, DC, but he said he was not interested if Trump decides to send forces to Chicago.

“In the city of Chicago, I do not give what they say,” he said. “I have no problem sending the National Guard. They were a problem before Obama faced his post, when he was a member of the Senate. That city.”

On the contrary, Smith argued that other cities that have known crime cases, such as Baltimore and St. Lewis, should not get the treatment of the National Guard. He said this because there were statistical signs of improvement regarding the crime.

One of the final topics was related to Stephen’s aspirations.

While Smith indicated that life is good these days, he talked about the reason for stopping the closing of the door on the questions about He runs for positions.

“I have no desire at all to be a politician,” he said. “Life is really good, and I don’t really want to be exposed to it at all, but I asked me different people – including the priest, including people in this work and others – to maintain an open mind, because you never know what a state Ready, even if you are ready, do you acknowledge that you are ready for the gatekeeper.

While questioning his ability to raise money, Smith said he had a complete belief that his ideas could accomplish the task.

He said: “But if I have nothing to worry about all of this, and it was just my thoughts and my realities against you, I think I will win a democratic nomination,” before adding that he would really love an opportunity to obtain a discussion stage with politicians.

Clay was then asked if he would face Stephen A. If he enters the race, but he first noticed that there is a big thing that the two agreed upon.

“I think what Stephen gets is that we are tired of professional politicians,” said Clay.

Is it running?

“If Stephen is running, I will run and I will run it.”

As you may expect, this last issue was not approved by the two.

“No, he did not do it,” Smith said.

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